Welcome back to Somewhere To Believe In! We’re calling this series ‘Keeping the faith’ because this time around we’re having no-holds-barred conversations with people who get stuck in BECAUSE of what they believe.
Arguably, no one has done more to keep the faith than our first guest; former superintendent in the Met police, man-on-a-mission to change a racist police system from within, subject of one of Steve McQueen’s Small Axe films and general truth-to-power-speaker, Leroy Logan.
We talk about Leroy’s incredible life. From some of his formative years being spent as a young boy in Jamaica seeing Black people in positions of power to his short career in science and his ultimate ‘calling’ to the police force – a decision which resulted in him joining the ranks of the officers who beat-up his father, and a decades-long mission to call out toxic police culture and replace it with love, respect, service and care.
Plus, a lot has happened since we last had a podcast chat, so Katherine and Paul get us up-to-date on all things Greenbelt Festival, Prospect Farm and – most importantly – which lockdown hobbies have stuck and which haven’t.
Links, resources and episode timestamps (for all you skippers out there) below.
ABOUT LEROY LOGAN
Dr Leroy Logan MBE is a former superintendent in the Metropolitan police. He retired in 2013 after 30 years’ service. He is also a former chair and founding member of the Black Police Association. Leroy is one of the UK’s most highly decorated and well known black police officers. A highly respected and well regarded commentator on policing in black communities, he believes that there is still much work to do in creating a more equitable and fair criminal justice system.
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LINKS AND RESOURCES
00:00 – Welcome to Somewhere To Believe In
00:56 – Katherine and Paul catch up
04:25 – Katherine and Paul on cancelling Greenbelt Festival (again)
07:10 – Katherine and Paul on Prospect Farm
08:45 – Katherine and Paul on why we’re not doing a digital festival this year
09:44 – Introducing Leroy Logan
11:39 – Leroy joins the conversation
12:37 – Leroy on East London
13:16 – Leroy on moving to Jamaica
15:59 – Leroy on growing up
16:30 – Leroy on faith and policing
19:40 – Leroy on feeling called to join the police
22:30 – Leroy on hostile environments and standing up to make a difference
25:46 – Leroy on racist and toxic police culture
31:30 – Leroy on George Floyd and Derek Chauvin
37:48 – Leroy on reflecting, learning and improving
42:40 – Leroy on Steve McQueen’s Small Axe series
46:35 – Leroy on speaking for those who don’t have a voice
48:56 – Leroy on police and protest
53:03 – Katherine and Paul reflect on the conversation with Leroy
59:52 – Katherine and Paul on protecting your right to protest
1:01:40 – Next week on the podcast
1:02:27 – How to get in touch with us
1:03:05 – Thank you’s
A huge thanks to the Greenbelt Volunteer Talks Team for all their hard work on editing this episode. Our podcast music is ‘I Can Change’ by Lee Bains III & The Glory Fires.